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PostSubject: Limiter Removal and Shrink?   Limiter Removal and Shrink? EmptyThu Jul 12, 2007 9:51 am

This issue came up during the Sunday Regionals at Nationals.

P1 has "Cyber Dragon" on the field and "Limiter Removal" and "Heavy Storm" in hand.
P2 has a face-up monster (not important) and a set "Shrink" from a previous turn.
P1 plays "Limiter Removal" first.
Neither player chains.
"Cyber Dragon" is now at 4200.
P1 then plays "Heavy Storm".
P2 chains "Shrink".

What is the final ATK of "Cyber Dragon"? 2100 or 3150?
Can you explain the reasoning behind the answer as well.


Answer:

"Cyber Dragon" will have 1050 ATK. (2100 / 2)

"Shrink" halves the original ATK of the "Cyber Dragon". The ATK double applied by the effect of "Limiter Removal" disappears, but the "Cyber Dragon" will still be destroyed in the End Phase.


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So just a check on things that Shrink will drop as I'm assuming that Limiter is being ignored in that situation as its only a temporary boost.

3 Scenarios:

1) - Card Trooper which has sent 3 cards to the grave so is sitting at 1900 - drops to 1700 or 200 from Shrink?

2) - Muka Muka is in Player A's control and Player A has 4 cards in hand to give it 1800. When it attacks Player B activates Shrink - as Muka Muka's boost is continuous does it drop to 1500?

3) - Blue-Eyes White Dragon is equipped with Axe of Despair - would Shrink drop him to 2500 as the 1000 boost for Axe is continuous and hence would be applied to the new original Attack?

Answer:

Increases/gains to a monster's ATK (+1000 from "Axe of Despair", +500 from "Gravity Axe - Grarl", etc.) and decreases/losses to a monster's ATK (ATK loss from "Shattered Axe", -1000 from "Shooting Star Bow - Ceal", etc.) are reapplied after halving the monster's original ATK with "Shrink".



1 - "Card Trooper's" gains 1500 ATK from its effect. First you halve its original ATK, from 400 to 200. You then reapply the gained ATK, taking it to a total of 1700.

2 - "Muka Muka" gains 300 ATK for each card in its controller's hand. First you halve its original ATK, from 600 to 300. Next you reapply the gained ATK, giving it a total of 1500 ATK.

3 - "Blue-Eyes White Dragon" gains 1000 ATK from "Axe of Despair". First you halve its original ATK, from 3000 to 1500. Next you reapply the gained ATK, giving it a total of 2500 ATK.


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